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Title

The Lords defeats 42 days' detention (2008)

Date
13 October 2008
Relevant topic(s)
Democracy and participationRightsThe constitutionHow the constitution has changed since 1997

What happened?

Gordon Brown's government sought to extend pre-charge detention for terror suspects to 42 days. It narrowly passed the Commons in June 2008.

In October 2008 the House of Lords rejected it by a large majority, and the government dropped the plan.

  • In June 2008 the government survived in the Commons only because of nine DUP votes, after 36 Labour MPs rebelled.
  • On 13 October 2008 peers rejected the 42-day measure by 309 votes to 118, a margin of 191.
  • The Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, announced the retreat in a Commons statement, keeping the proposal available for a future emergency in separate legislation.
  • Opponents in the Lords included the former Attorney General Lord Goldsmith and former Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer; Lord Dear, a former chief constable, called the measure 'a shabby charade'.

Why is it politically significant?

The defeat shows the unelected House of Lords acting as a check on the executive to protect civil liberties.

How to use

Which arguments does it support?

The Lords protects civil liberties

Reasoning
Peers rejected 42 days' detention without charge.
Evidence
They voted 309 to 118.
How it supports the argument
The government dropped the plan.

Which counterarguments exist?

Limits of the evidence

The power was kept in reserve

The government said it would keep the proposal available for a future emergency.

Concepts and connections

Sources and verification

Event13 October 2008
Added to bank11 November 2026
Last checked11 November 2026
Next check due11 May 2027
  1. 1
    Publisher The Irish TimesPublished 14 October 2008Type NewsChecked 4 November 2026
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Is it still current?

Concluded

The development has ended or been reversed, but remains useful evidence.

Why it is in the bank

The key example of the Lords protecting liberty.

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Editorial status

Approved

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Origin: AI draft (Claude) · Reviewer: Editor

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